Seems like some self-acceptance issues are at hand on both sides; each being constantly envious of the other only breeds jealousy and resentment that probably contributes to the cycle of violence.
Yeah. But with Cavil, it seems like there's more to it than "jealousy and resentment", though that's clearly part of it. His "gelatinous orbs" speech makes it seem like he's truly suffering over this, all the time, like it's a full-on "I was born in the wrong body, I am not this thing I appear to be, I cannot stand my own flesh" psychological issue for him. Almost like somebody who longs for a sex change, or someone with a bad case of body dysmorphic disorder or BIID (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_Integrity_Identity_Disorder).
The 2/6/8s are like this in the other direction -- they want to be human so much that they're willing to go to almost any lengths to accomplish it. I mean, they destroyed the Hub! Athena lived in a cell for years! And what's Leoben's dollhouse, if not a bizarre attempt to emulate what he thinks humanity is? It was as if by arranging "a human life" perfectly around him, he hoped to transform.
And the Centurions, too, wanted human bodies so much they carved people up in a desperate attempt to cobble something together. Then they ended the war as soon as the Five offered this to them, even though they were winning. Perhaps because the Cylons are sort of halfway between machines and humans, it's hard for any of them to strike a balance, and they end up desperately seeking to become one or the other.
This would be spectacular on so many levels. Can we get some more Simon and Aaron?! Please, writers? Please?
Oh, I bet their body doubles will be in the background of one -- or possibly two -- episodes before the end. :P
Seriously, when they weren't in No Exit (which seems likely to end up being The Cylon Episode for 4.5, though I hope I'm wrong), I took that as a real bad sign. Which sucks, because I love them both, and wanted them to get a bit of actual characterization before the end. I hope they'll be in The Plan.
edit: And one more thing I just thought of: Simon is now the only one who doesn't have (at least) two names. I hope we'll get to at least learn his full name before the end.
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Date: 2009-02-19 01:13 am (UTC)Yeah. But with Cavil, it seems like there's more to it than "jealousy and resentment", though that's clearly part of it. His "gelatinous orbs" speech makes it seem like he's truly suffering over this, all the time, like it's a full-on "I was born in the wrong body, I am not this thing I appear to be, I cannot stand my own flesh" psychological issue for him. Almost like somebody who longs for a sex change, or someone with a bad case of body dysmorphic disorder or BIID (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_Integrity_Identity_Disorder).
The 2/6/8s are like this in the other direction -- they want to be human so much that they're willing to go to almost any lengths to accomplish it. I mean, they destroyed the Hub! Athena lived in a cell for years! And what's Leoben's dollhouse, if not a bizarre attempt to emulate what he thinks humanity is? It was as if by arranging "a human life" perfectly around him, he hoped to transform.
And the Centurions, too, wanted human bodies so much they carved people up in a desperate attempt to cobble something together. Then they ended the war as soon as the Five offered this to them, even though they were winning. Perhaps because the Cylons are sort of halfway between machines and humans, it's hard for any of them to strike a balance, and they end up desperately seeking to become one or the other.
This would be spectacular on so many levels. Can we get some more Simon and Aaron?! Please, writers? Please?
Oh, I bet their body doubles will be in the background of one -- or possibly two -- episodes before the end. :P
Seriously, when they weren't in No Exit (which seems likely to end up being The Cylon Episode for 4.5, though I hope I'm wrong), I took that as a real bad sign. Which sucks, because I love them both, and wanted them to get a bit of actual characterization before the end. I hope they'll be in The Plan.
edit: And one more thing I just thought of: Simon is now the only one who doesn't have (at least) two names. I hope we'll get to at least learn his full name before the end.